Again the Student Has Become the Master

"We are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters."

For nigh of the career of a pupil, The Mentor overshadows the student in terms of ability. This is certainly justified, since it is the intention of a student to become more than skilled past learning from a more experienced mentor.

Even so, there may come a time when the student surpasses the mentor in power. It is at this point at which the pupil reaches his full power and becomes a master of his merchandise. This may result in the mentor becoming an Obsolete Mentor. If the student is arrogant, when he proves he is superior, he frequently utters a Stock Phrase or some variation thereof from which the trope proper noun originates: "The educatee has surpassed the teacher."

If the mentor is the overnice type, he will often be highly proud of his student (though perhaps with a bit of ego-stroking most his own teaching skills). If the student has surpassed his mentor merely hasn't reached his total potential, his old main may tell him to notice a new master who will teach the student more.

If the mentor is the jealous type, he may be quite jealous and resentful of the student's ability, and in farthermost cases, the mentor may go the student'south enemy. When both the teacher and the student are evil, with the pupil learning the ways of evil from the teacher, the student often proves his superiority past killing the teacher.

Straight Sub-Trope of Superior Successor.

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     Anime And Manga

• Lyrical Nanoha:
  • Yuuno is technically Nanoha'south teacher in magic. In exercise, however, she learns everything he can teach her inside three or four episodes of the original series. Hilariously, most people who know that he taught her just don't know him personally are unaware that this trope is in effect, resulting in him getting Mistaken for Badass.
  • In Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's, Chrono defeats Liesearia and Lieselotte, his gainsay magic instructors, and explicitly tells them that he has get stronger than both of them.
  • In Magical Daughter Lyrical Nanoha ViVid, Teana beats Nanoha herself in a mock duel using long range battery—with Nanoha's own Starlight Billow, no less! ^annotation It was a half-dozen on six battle and Nanoha was worn out past then.
• As part of Jin'due south backstory in Samurai Champloo, Jin, prize student of the Mujuushin dojo, became a ronin subsequently killing his teacher, Principal Mariya, in self-defence force. This technically makes him the 4th and final master of the school.
• Fatal Fury: Tung Fu Rue reunites with Terry and Andy on the ten twelvemonth anniversary of their father'due south decease, during which, he tells them their skills have already surpassed Jeff'due south. Nonetheless, only i could get his successor. Adding that the one he chooses would accept to surpass his ain ability. Guess which 1 pulls it off?
• Dragon Ball
  • Played With at the start of the series. Goku'due south mentor, Master Roshi, disguises himself to participate without getting known at a tournament. The viewer expects this trope to announced, as Goku manages to evade all of Roshi's tactics to defeat him. Notwithstanding, Goku loses to him after he'due south goaded into a final jump-kick, receiving the burden of the injury. At that place's besides the fact that because Goku didn't know he was fighting Roshi, he never knew how strong his master actually is. There are some hints that Roshi is much more than skilled than he lets on in the series, though it becomes clear that Goku has surpassed him by the 22nd World Tournament. This is Played for Drama in the King Piccolo Saga. After losing to Piccolo, Goku goes to Korin and asks him to railroad train him again. Korin tin only tell Goku that the latter has already surpassed him and he can teach Goku nothing. By the stop of the original Dragon Ball, Goku has surpassed all his teachers, including Kami. At the beginning of Z, he needs to get stronger than King Kai just to have a remote chance against the Saiyans since they're stronger than him.
  • Played With in regard to Gohan as well. By the Cell Games, Gohan surpassed both Piccolo and his father, becoming the strongest characters in the series upward to that point. Later on the seven year time skip, Goku surpasses Gohan since he slacked off and really got weaker. Later getting empowered by One-time Kai, Gohan becomes the strongest hero in the series over again. He slacks off, again, and Goku profoundly surpasses him by a laughable caste by Resurrection 'F'.
• Rurouni Kenshin:
  • Averted where the championship character cannot surpass his mentor Hiko, because he merely does not possess the physique to fully use the Hiten Mitsurugi manner. In fairness, Hiko is the strongest character in the serial past a wide margin, and then just existence second to him means being extremely powerful. Also, when a Muteki fashion fighter whose sensei was killed past Kenshin showed up wanting to kill Kenshin for that, it was not for vengeance but considering killing Kenshin would show he surpassed his master.
  • In the manga, Sanosuke Sagara upgrades Anji's finishing movement, Futae no Kiwami or Mastery of Two Layers, which Anji had taught him, into Mastery of Iii Layers and defeats him with it. This didn't make it into the anime, which turned their fight into a draw.
• Naruto
  • Naruto perfected Sage Mode, which Jiraiya wasn't able to practise. In a style he surpassed Kakashi, considering Kakashi, like the Fourth Hokage, wasn't able to add together element manipulation to the Rasengan (which is why Kakashi made Chidori and later Raikiri). ^note It's generally assumed the Quaternary Hokage would have managed to accomplish that goal had he not died before the start of the manga.
  • Kabuto, after assimilating Orochimaru's remains into himself for a power boost and further successfully combining the DNA of Orochimaru'south strongest subordinates to give himself their powers, somewhen surpassed his master as well, perfecting the Impure Globe Resurrection jutsu and mastering Sage Mode, a feat even Orochimaru was unable to do.
• Domon Kasshu in Mobile Fighter K Gundam surpasses his teacher, Principal Asia, in the final climactic battle of the 13th Gundam Fight.
• In Gate, Lelei reads textbooks on chemical science and physics and applies what she learned to her spellwork, which drastically improves it. Her magical teacher Cato is proud and admits she has exceeded his abilities.
• In Pokémon, Ash owns and trains a Froakie, a ninja-frog Pokémon. Over the course of his journey through Kalos Ash meets up with Sanpei, who hails from a Ninja Village and trains a Frogadier, Froakie's evolved form. Sanpei and Frogadier (who afterwards becomes a Greninja) take on the role of mentor to Ash and Froakie and help them learn new moves such as Double Team. By the fourth dimension Ash's Froakie reaches information technology's Greninja stage, however, Ash'southward Greninja becomes The Ace of the Kalos serial as a whole and even gets a powerful Super Mode considering of his close bond with Ash, while Sanpei and his Greninja fall victim to The Worf Effect.
• In Tokyo Ghoul:Re, Haise Sasaki's job is to train an Investigator that volition go a Superior Successor to the legendary Kishou Arima (his mentor). Somewhen, a Gambit Pileup leads to pupil and mentor engaging in a boxing to the death. This is all according to Arima's long-term plan to groom Kaneki into a person capable of not only killing him, simply becoming the leader of La Résistance. However, Kaneki loves his surrogate father too much to terminate him off, leading Arima to accept matters into his own hands. He asks Kaneki to have credit for killing him, to complete the Klington Promotion attribute of his plan.
• In Devil May Cry: The Animated Series, Baul was a demon swordsman who was trained past Dante'due south father Sparda. Since Sparda is expressionless, Baul attacks Dante, both out of resentment for Sparda abandoning him, and because he believes defeating Dante will prove he had surpassed Sparda. He fails and Dante slays him.
• In Accel World, Ruby Pelting does this to her mentor and parent, Ruddy Rook. He brings her onto Brain Burst, and she eventually becomes i of the Six Kings of Pure Colour, replacing Red Rider. Unfortunately, Cherry starts feeling highly inadequate as a outcome, which, combined with the fact that he'll exist adopted and move out of the orphanage soon, results in him beingness tricked into taking the Armor of Catastrophe.
• Throughout Yu-Gi-Oh!, Yami Yugi has acted every bit a protector/mentor to trivial Yugi — though while under Yami'south protection, Yugi has been growing stronger every bit a duelist. This comes to a head when they duel each other to determine if Yugi can finally stand on his own and Yami can pass on to the afterlife; during the final play, Yami uses Monster Reborn to resurrect Slifer the Heaven Dragon, only for Yugi to negate its effect every bit he saw information technology coming. Yami then accepts that his partner has become the stronger of the two.

  Yami: My partner...predicted my last card....You've...surpassed me...

  • Duke Devlin, creator of Dice Monsters (and at get-go was one of Yugi'southward enemies) revealed in his debut (Episode 46) that sometime after creating the game Pegasus played it and fifty-fifty beat him!
  • In the KC K Championship arc, Joey duels against Grandpa Muto, who taught him how to play Duel Monsters (and who'southward in disguise under the alias "Apdnarg Otum"). Ultimately, Joey wins.
• Fourth dimension End Brave: Swordmaster Leafa Colby surpassed her teacher, Swordmaster Magnus, when she was a small child. Unfortunately, this made her airs go off the charts.

     Comic Books

• Wally Due west was once the get-go Kid Wink, the Sidekick to the second Wink, Barry Allen. Afterward Barry'southward death, Wally lost mcuh of his speed due to events during Crisis on Infinite Earths. However, when Wally became the Flash, he somewhen surpassed Barry in terms of speed and accomplishments, becoming the get-go speedster to enter the Speed Forcefulness and come back. Not only that, but he learned powers that Barry never, and notwithstanding hasn't, possessed, such as the ability to steal speed or generate basic constructs from the Speed Strength. Even when Barry returned, it was never established that he was whatsoever better than Wally at being the Flash (in fact, information technology was lightly implied otherwise), and DC has since settled things a few times, showing Wally outpacing Barry in terms of speed alone. All the Flashes accept said it, but Wally Westward truly is The Fastest Man Live.
• Many of Batman's protegés accept surpassed him in some way. Nightwing surpasses him as an acrobat, a leader, and at maintaining relations with other superheroes, Batgirl/Oracle (Barbara Gordon) surpasses him in intel gathering, Black Bat (Cassandra Cain) surpasses him as a fighter, and Red Robin Tim Drake will eventually become a better detective than him.
• Robin Series: When Tim meets ane of the earliest martial arts instructors he'd had while training as Robin a year later and the human being assaults him, Tim easily trounces him. Not only does this brandish his improvement, it demonstrates that his old instructor'south ideology most fighting and martial arts is incorrect, which he'd kind of wanted to call out since they first met just never tried while studying under him.
• Matt Fraction'due south Hawkeye series has suggested that Kate Bishop of the Young Avengers has surpassed Clint Barton as an archer, beingness able to burn five arrows at once (later on which he outright calls her perfect in his mind).
• The Transformers: Dark Cybertron: Shockwave, the prize educatee of Jhiaxus, surpasses him in the nowadays. Jhiaxus even acknowledges it seeing equally how Shockwave is jump by only logic and no emotion, so Jhiaxus willingly follows him on his quest to control reality.
• Poison Ivy is a meta-example. In-universe, Dr. Pamela Isley was a postdoctoral researcher whose mentor and lover was Dr. Jason Woodroe, the Floronic Human being. He experimented on her, which led to her gaining her establish-based powers. As a character, Poison Ivy has go one of the all-time-known villains in the DC universe while the Floronic Human has been largely forgotten other than his connection to her.

    Fan Works

• Arachne Webber, a very incidental character in Snuff, is expanded upon every bit a student at the Assassins' Order Schoolhouse in A.A. Pessimal's Discworld fic There's Nothing Like A Fresh Pair of eyes, Is There . In which her mentor, Johanna Smith-Rhodes, notes with pride that her student'due south specialist knowledge of spiders vastly exceeds her own.
• In The Witch of the Everfree, Twilight eventually surpasses Sunset at magical theory. Unusually, rather than dropping out of their mentor-student relationship at that signal, they only switch, with Twilight starting to teach Dusk instead of the other mode around.

     Picture show - Live Action

• Star Wars:
  • A New Hope: Darth Vader claims that "When I left you, I was but the learner; now I am the master" when he confronts and kills his former principal Obi-Wan. Subverted in that Obi-Wan's death is a Thanatos Gambit to merge with the Force and distract Vader from his children Luke and Leia escaping in the background.
  • In Attack of the Clones, Dooku tries to pull this against his old master Yoda, but ends upwards retreating and distracting his onetime primary to survive.

    Dooku: I've become more powerful than any Jedi, even yous!
    [Yoda effortlessly blocks, absorbs, or deflects all of Dooku'due south Force attacks on him]
    Yoda: Much to learn you still have.

  • 1 of the last things Obi-Wan says to Anakin in Revenge of the Sith invokes this trope (and echoes what Obi-Wan's own main told him in The Phantom Menace).

    Obi-Wan: You are strong and wise, Anakin, and I am very proud of you. I have trained you since you were a small boy. I accept taught you everything I know. And you lot have become a far greater Jedi than I could e'er hope to exist.

  • And speaking of Matt Stover, his Novelization includes a conversation betwixt Yoda and the ghost of Qui-Gon Jinn in which Yoda acknowledges that Qui-Gon was ever the superior Jedi:

    Yoda: A very great Jedi Master you have get, Qui-Gon Jinn. A very great Jedi Master you ever were, but too blind I was to see information technology. (bows respectfully) Your apprentice, I gratefully become.

  • In The Last Jedi, Yoda (as a Force ghost) tells Luke that this is expected for all Jedi. (Specifically, he'due south speaking of Rey.)

    Yoda: Luke, nosotros are what they grow beyond. That is the true burden of all masters.

• Highlander did this, the terminate of the Training Montage with Connor and Ramirez has Connor finally besting Ramirez and disarming him.
• Chess movie Queen of Katwe: The exact moment that Robert realizes this comes when he believes that Phiona has made a error and failed to respond to his attack. She gain to prove him an eight-motility sequence in which she forks with a bishop and takes Robert'due south rook. Robert is astonished that she can see eight moves deep.
• The classic martial arts one-act The Last Dragon is about this. Later on his Kung-Fu master refuses to train him farther, Leeroy goes in search of another master to farther his training, not realizing until the cease that he already surpassed his instructor, and became a master himself.
• In Wonder Adult female (2017), Queen Hippolyta specifically tells Antiope, the Amazons' greatest warrior, to train Diana to be better fifty-fifty than her for her own protection. It'south debatable as to how successful she was; even later decades of training, Antiope rapidly gains the upper hand against Diana when she is distracted...until Diana unleashes her previously untapped powers and immediately overpowers her, shocking anybody nowadays (including Diana herself). By the picture show's stop, Diana clearly surpasses any of the other Amazons in power being half-god probably has something to do with it, though sadly Antiope does not alive to see how great a warrior her niece becomes.
• Tyor surpasses Caedmon as a mage about a third of the manner into Wizards of the Lost Kingdom 2, although given that Caedmon was only chosen to be the mentor to begin with because he was the just one available, this did non take much effort. At the end, the Big Expert decides to arrive official and directly-upwards reverse the characters' positions.
• In Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, master criminal Jade Play a trick on spent years Hiding in Plainly Sight equally the nanny to Governor Yu'due south daughter Jen, secretly teaching her martial arts as she got older. Fox is cocky-taught from the famed Wudang manuscript, but considering she's illiterate, she could only study the diagrams. Jen'southward ability to read the text immune her to gain a deeper understanding of the techniques, merely she hid this knowledge from Fox. When Fox finds out Jen had been keeping this a hole-and-corner from her, it drives a wedge between the two.

     Literature

• In Tarnsman of Gor, Tarl learns the sword from a human likewise named Tarl, whom he refers to as "the Older Tarl." At every sparring come across the Older Tarl beats Tarl and says "You lot are dead." At one point Tarl finally gets through the Older Tarl'due south defense; the Older Tarl cries out with please "I am dead!" and clutches Tarl to his bosom, "proud as a father who has taught his son chess and has been defeated for the first time." Speaking of which...
  • In Assassin of Gor, Tarl teaches a slave girl to play the Gorean equivalent of chess, which slaves are forbidden to acquire. He finds that she's a natural, and stops giving her communication on her game in order to concentrate on not losing too badly.
• Mentor in Lensman apartment-out says the Children of the Lens (the five Kinnison children) have gone beyond the Arisians.
• In Matilda, it is clear from very early in the book that Matilda has intellectual capabilities that are certainly beyond that of her instructor, Ms. Beloved.
  • Heck, Matilda has surpassed her teachers and so far, she gains psychic powers, due to the lack of challenge. Once she'south moved to a higher grade, they quickly vanish.
• In the Discworld Witches series, information technology is hinted in Lords and Ladies that the one thing Granny Weatherwax fears is the emergence of a witch who is more powerful than she is, who will compete for supremacy - and win. In the Tiffany Aching trilogy, such a novice witch does arise. Granny realises this, and neatly aces the dilemma by taking on Tiffany's instruction herself. This makes the prospect of a fight between them admittedly unthinkable, and Granny realises that while Tiffany will inevitably eclipse her, this is so far in the future as to resolve the trouble: Granny will exist dead or "retired" past then and the succession of Alpha Witch is bodacious without mortality or catastrophic devastation. In the concurrently, Granny is free to express occasional seemly pride.
  • Granny Weatherwax herself claims that she got the local witch to have her as an apprentice by sheer determination and following her around until the erstwhile witch taught her everything she knew... which took most a week.
• In Pact, Jeremy Meath, High Drunkard of Dionysus, demonstrates that his agreement of his god's will surpasses that of his teacher past making a formal challenge to the Magical Society of Toronto to merits his personal demesne before he's likely ready, trusting in Dionysus' appreciation for madmen to see him through. Equally a result, most of his teacher's followers defect to Jeremy'southward side, since Dionysus now favors him more.
• Journey to Chaos: In A Mage's Power, Eric is taught magecraft by Basilard Bladi and Dengel Tymh. Then he has a falling out with the later and spends Looming Shadow attempting to fulfill this trope so he can smear Dengel's fame. Every bit his brush with the trope With Not bad Power Comes Smashing Insanity demonstrates, he still has a means to get before he tin can say "I am a better mage than Dengel".
• Valhalla features a scene in which the protagonist bests her drill teacher past breaking his arm during what was intended as a flinch examination. He'southward quite proud, though she all the same goes to the brig.
• In the Star Wars Expanded Universe novels, Sith Guild'due south philosophy of the Rule of Ii is meant to lead into the apprentice betraying his master in one case he has learned everything that his chief knows, ensuring the adjacent Sith masters tin only become stronger.

     Live Activity TV

• Buffy the Vampire Slayer:
  • Giles worries nigh this from season 4 onwards, since Buffy's at college and he's no longer her Watcher officially or unofficially. He considers leaving Sunnydale entirely, simply changes his mind when Buffy asks for more training. When he does leave in season six, it'due south for the opposite reason.
  • Played with in late season seven; Fasten straight confronts Giles with words along these lines, maxim that one of the reasons he turned on Buffy was jealousy that Buffy had surpassed him in her abilities.
• JAG: In "JAG Television", Mac as trial counsel (prosecutor) in a televised murder case faces her old police professor Juanita Ressler as defense counsel. Ressler knows how use the media to her advantage, while Mac is utterly dismissive of interview requests and is overwhelmed and distracted by the sudden interest of the media in her as a mysterious sexual practice object. Following words of wisdom from Admiral Chegwidden, Mac begins to spin-md the media to her advantage which brings forth new evidence from anonymous sources which helps to convict the defendant for murder.
• The X-Files: Implied in the episode "Grotesque". Agent Bill Patterson is 1 of the top criminal profilers and forensic psychologists at the FBI. He has a strange only understandable mental attitude towards Mulder who was once a part of his squad, but dissimilar other young agents he didn't worship him and didn't want to be like him. Patterson on the other hand feels that Mulder threw away his amazing talent and instead of profiling criminals he chose to hunt aliens and the paranormal. Mulder thinks that Patterson never thought highly of him. However, Patterson is probably a chip envious of Mulder's abilities and according to his team, he starts telling "Mulder stories" virtually him being "some kind of crack genius" when he's boozer. Sadly, Patterson also ends upwardly existence a Cleaved Pedestal for all involved.
• In Flavour D of Blake's 7, we're introduced to Soolin, the newest member of this Ragtag Bunch of Misfits.
• On Sliders, Quinn Mallory surpassed Professor Arturo before the first episode by opening a vortex to some other dimension. Quinn did information technology purely by blow (he was really working on anti-gravity), and he doesn't fully sympathize what he's washed fifty-fifty after some extensive study, but he nevertheless managed to do something that Arturo researched and was never able to do himself. Quinn even looked to his research when building the timer. The trope gets played in dissimilar ways. Arturo thinks of Quinn equally his prized student and a surrogate son, and so he is often quite proud of his accomplishments. On the other hand, the center-aged professor holds back resentment over being outdone by someone who hasn't fifty-fifty graduated higher nonetheless, and it sometimes flares upwards. For his function, Quinn idolizes Arturo and always looks to him for guidance.

  Fortuneteller: [to Arturo] You lot are a human who feels slighted, yep? Because you lot were never fully appreciated in your chosen profession. These are the invisible chains which you comport. You resent the male child because information technology comes and then hands to him. You are Salieri to his Mozart, yes?

• Spartacus: Blood and Sand: Crassus is introduced sparring with his swordfighting coach, a slave. Crassus knows that he'll never know his full potential unless his teacher fights to win, and then he offers the homo his freedom if he tin kill him. The instructor accepts and tries to impale Crassus, merely Crassus defeats him with a Bare-Handed Blade Block.
• RuPaul'southward Elevate Race: Season 8 contestant Dax Exclamationpoint was the drag female parent to Season vii winner Violet Chatzki. Unfortunately, Dax fared much more than poorly in her own flavor, equally not simply was she eliminated in the second episode, simply she was part of the show's 2nd-ever double elimination. Of all the mother-daughter pairs that accept competed on the evidence, Dax is the only one to perform worse than her protégé.
• Young Hercules: Cheiron doesn't talk a lot most his past, but all indications point to him having been quite a noteworthy hero earlier he started running the University of Adventure. He leads his ain clan of Centaurs, served in war nether Agamemnon, receives respect from royalty (despite Centaurs typically facing Fantastic Racism), and demonstrates a variety of skills and techniques in his lessons. Of course, one of his newest cadets is Hercules, who goes on to get Greece's greatest hero. This is even best-selling in the series' timeframe, as Cheiron admits in "Boxing Lines, Pt 2" that Hercules gave him a much needed reminder of a lesson in reason. An episode of Hercules: The Legendary Journeys noted that Cheiron expressed nothing only praise for his sometime student, while Hercules remembered him fondly as a Parental Substitute that was there for him when he was still finding his way.

     Music

• The Police: "Wrapped Around Your Finger", where the singer initially depicts his affair with a (presumably older) married woman equally his being a educatee or "apprentice" to her didactics, who seeks the noesis of "things they would not teach me of in college" and says that he will "listen hard to [her] tuition"—and that he'll be "wrapped around [her] finger". But then foresees that he will somewhen turn the tables:

  Devil and the deep bluish body of water backside me
  Vanish in the air you'll never discover me

  I volition plough your face to alabaster

  When you'll find your servant is your primary

  You lot'll exist wrapped effectually my finger

     Professional Wrestling

• On NXT Season ii, David Otunga claimed he had surpassed R-Truth and tried to prove it when given a chance to wrestle any pro of his choosing. Needless to say, R-Truth was superior and would remain for the rest of Otunga's WWE run.

     Faith, Mythology, & Sociology

• In Classical Mythology, the bang-up inventor Daedalus had a nephew/apprentice named Perdix who was an even amend inventor than he was (he invented the saw, among other things). Daedalus got jealous and plotted to impale Perdix and merits his inventions every bit his own. As information technology happens, one day the 2 were walking by a cliff when Perdix asked how Daedalus'south son Icarus died. Daedalus responded past throwing a valuable object over the cliff, and Perdix, struggling to save it, fell to his expiry.
• The Chinese phrase "青出于蓝" literally ways to make green/blueish out of the indigo plant, just it also metaphorically ways to surpass a teacher, similar how one can refine a dark-green/blue dye to brand information technology more than vibrant than the source of it.
• Confucius claimed this to be the mark of a adept student; the power to learn everything your primary had to teach, and then add together something of your ain.

     Tabletop Games

• A rare just possible result in Dungeons & Dragons basic set's weapon proficiency. By default, in that location'south a ane% take chances of doing so if you train with a teacher as skilled as you are. It'south possible to boost it to xi% by training with another teacher, but it'due south more efficient to observe someone sufficiently skilled.

     Video Games

• Invoked directly in Assassinator's Creed when Altair finally takes downward Al Mualim. Al Mualim says the trope'due south name well-nigh word-for-give-and-take, and Altair simply replies with the titular creed.
• This a major theme in several of the games of the Atelier franchise. Particularly in the latter games of the series, which are trilogies, it is non unusual for the star of the next game to have the previous game's atomic number 82 character as their alchemy teacher. They will then become on to achieve feats that the teacher never even could have imagined.
• In The Elder Scrolls
  • Daggerfall introduces skill trainers to the series. They are associated with each guild (Fighters, Mages, Thieves, etc.), who offering training services in any skill associated with the Gild. The price of this service is dependent on your character level, 100 aureate per level to be precise. However, they tin can only train a skill to a maximum of l%.
  • Morrowind has faction-associated trainers, merely adds enough of independent ones besides. Instead of all trainers training you to the same maximum, information technology varies depending on the trainer's level in that specific skill. Near max out in the 40s or 50s, while a few can train you lot to the 75-80 range. If y'all ask for grooming once your skill level has surpassed theirs, they will tell you that there is cypher more they tin teach y'all in that skill. (Each skill also has a Master trainer who tin train you lot all the way to 100, but the vast majority are extremely difficult to notice.)
  • Oblivion maintains Morrowind's system, but adds some additional restrictions. At present, each skill has a trainer for each rank of experience in that skill (Apprentice, Journeyman, etc.) and limits you to only existence able to train yous v times per level. If you ask for training when you're likewise loftier level, and then they'll say something to the effect of this trope. Main level trainers still exist, just can simply train you to 90 and will tell y'all that, across this level, you have to Figure It Out Yourself.
  • Skyrim drops the "one trainer per rank", bringing back multiple trainers for each skill with a cap based on their skill level, similar to Morrowind. However, the "limit 5 times per level" brake is however in place, as is the cap skill level of 90 for Master trainers.
• In Fantasy Life, the player is mentored by a character with the rank of Master. In that location are however characters with the college ranks of Hero or Legend, which the player can eventually reach also. The Downloadable Content adds nonetheless an actress rank.
• Faraway Story allows Pia to challenge her teacher, Ellevark, to an optional Duel Boss boxing. Winning will result in a not-canon alternate catastrophe where Pia goes on to become the Globe'southward Best Warrior.
• In The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, you lot can undergo a minigame involving sparring with your former instructor in the art of swordplay. If you get a score of thousand points, he responds in this manner.
• You ameliorate hope this is the instance in Massive Chalice as information technology'south directly linked to the level progression of the game. Children sired from high level parents proceeds a few gratis levels and with further training a couple more; this in plough allows them to level up past their parents and teachers, meaning that somewhen their children volition start with a higher level than their parents, and so on.
• Luminous Plume: Raven and the terminal Bonus Dominate hash out and deconstruct this trope. Victor feared that Raven's growth would surpass his own, so he sealed away Raven'due south memory to make the latter forget his more advanced training, which is something he admits is petty. Similarly, Raven fears that Valerie might 1 solar day use aureola powers for evil and go too stiff for him to terminate.
• In Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, Naked Snake finally surpasses his former mentor The Boss in a last confrontation where he had ten minutes to defeat her or else the area would be napalmed. Amazingly Ophidian is able to really defeat her despite before not even existence able to impairment her in hand to hand gainsay, for the get-go fourth dimension in the game Snake can actually counter his mentor's CQC attacks and reply in kind showing a vast caste of improvement in his skills from earlier in the game when she handed his ass to him. For his efforts Snake is awarded the title of Big Boss, showing that in the U.S. military's eyes he had surpassed his mentor.
• Achieving a "cool" ranking in whatsoever level in the Parappa The Rapper series amounts to this, as it leads to the level'southward teacher informing you that they have zip more to teach you and leaving you to your own devices. If y'all can sustain this until the level ends, said level is marked with a crown.
• Resident Evil Hamlet revealed that Ozwell Eastward. Spencer, founder of the Umbrella Corporation and series Greater-Scope Villain, was student to the Large Bad of the 8th numbered championship of the series, Mother Miranda. She rescued him and taught him much, merely he left to follow his ain path because he thought that her Mold research did not take the potential to alter the globe in the way that he wanted, not like viruses could. And in a way, he was right. Many millions died and cities burned around the world because of Spencer'due south ambitions and, in comparing, Miranda and her Mold are barely a blip on the radar.
• Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice: The Wolf has the opportunity to do this to a lot of teachers over the course of the game:
  • The first i of Wolf'south teachers you may encounter and cutting downwards is Lady Butterfly who, along with Wolf'southward foster father Owl, trained Wolf in his childhood. Upon being cut down she dedicates her last words to complimenting Wolf on how stiff he'due south go.
  • Over the course of the game, Wolf gets two opportunities to exercise this to the Great Shinobi Owl: The first time is in the nowadays and even has Wolf finishing the fight with the words "You taught me well" whereupon Owl replies with "That'south... my boy..." However, Owl is past his prime in this battle and subsequently in the game you lot may get the opportunity to travel back to the past a few years via a retentiveness charm and effort to challenge and surpass Owl at his acme. Upon this second defeat, Owl instead mutters a bemused "Defeated by my ain son? The feeling is not entirely unpleasant..."
  • The Sculptor too used to be a shinobi and bestows upon Wolf two scrolls containing various skills for you to master: One for shinobi techniques, and a second for techniques using the tools of the prosthetic arm that the Sculptor gifted you at the start of the game, thus making him another, more hands-off kind of teacher for Wolf. Towards the end of the game, the Sculptor is transformed into a demon by his lingering resentment, hatred and karmic debt, forcing Wolf to overcome and defeat him.
  • Finally at that place's Isshin Ashina, who bestows Wolf with the Ashina-mode skill scroll and also acts as a mentor to Wolf, hoping to steer him clear of the path that resulted in the Sculptor'south tragic fate. Regardless of which path y'all walk in the game, Isshin is the Final Dominate, necessitating you to demonstrate that you've surpassed him one way or another: In the Bad Catastrophe, Isshin is still one-time and ill, but fights with the skill and experience he's gained after a lifetime of battle. In all other endings, he perishes from his illness earlier you lot get to fight him but is brought back in his prime whereupon he demonstrates the prowess that earned him his reputation as the World's Best Warrior.
• In the Street Fighter canon, Akuma killed his master, Goutetsu, in a off-white fight to show that he [Akuma] had truly mastered the power of the Satsui no Hadou. Goutetsu was actually proud of his pupil for having defeated him in battle.
  • Akuma also is attempting to accept Ryu practice the same past unlocking his Killing Intent. By this, Ryu would become Evil Ryu and then slay Akuma with the incredible power he has.
• In State of war of Omens Listrata'south mentor, Regent Ashkar, attempts to fight her for her treatment of the Pheneketians. She beats him in the following boxing and cheers him for the terminal lesson.
• Theia - The Blood-red Eclipse: Zigzagged with Seth and his instructor, Horus. In order to leave the Vanguards, Seth had to win a duel against Horus. However, he does so by slashing Horus'southward middle, implying he lacks the skill to win without injuring his opponent. In the nowadays, Horus joins equally a invitee at a higher level, which is implied to exist a combination of Horus training more and having Orihalcon cybernetics. At Halderos, Seth wins their duel by disarming Horus, playing this trope direct.
• Märchen Forest: Mylne and the Wood Gift: Catching the primary of the forest, a Sylvanshark, tin become this haiku from Mr. Pole:

  I admit defeat
  — indeed it seems the student,
  has beat the master.

     Visual Novels

• In Daughter for Dessert, Amanda learns not merely how the run the diner, but likewise how to save it. The protagonist only learned the former.

     Web Animation

• RWBY: Squad RWBY spends most of Volume 7 training under the Ace-Ops, the nearly elite squad of Huntsmen. When the Ace-Ops endeavour to arrest them subsequently Ironwood goes off the deep terminate and declares martial law, Team RWBY proves simply how much they learned and takes each of the Ace-Ops down one by one thanks to their superior teamwork.

  Harriet: Yous think you're going to stop us? [scoffs] We're the best Huntsmen in Atlas.
  Scarlet: Yous were. So you trained us.

     Webcomics

• In this xkcd comic, Elaine the hacker prodigy trumps Donald Knuth, her mentor.
• Our Little Adventure: Thomas Stratus is a powerful and accomplished wizard in the RPG Mechanics 'Verse. His much younger star pupil Brian Souballo, withal, is an epic wizard across the usual Character Level organisation, an Evilutionary Biologist who's created entirely new life forms, and 1 half of the Big Bad Duumvirate. Thomas has no idea how he became as powerful every bit he has, and simply escapes past sheer luck when Brian makes him An Offer He Can't Reject.

     Western Animation

• In Batman Beyond: Render of the Joker, Terry proves his worth as the new Batman when he does something the original Batman was never able to practice: brand the Joker the butt of a joke.
• In the My Petty Pony: Friendship Is Magic episode, "Pinkie Pride", subsequently The Reveal, it turns out that Cheese Sandwich has washed this since Pinkie Pie was his inspiration for becoming a party pony, and the whole episode shows him able to trump Pinkie'south antics.
• In the Simpsons episode "Moaning Lisa", Homer (humorously) applies this to a parent-child dynamic:

  Homer: I think the saddest 24-hour interval of my life was the day I realized I could beat my dad at near things, and Bart experienced that at the age of four.

• Amy spends the Sonic Blast episode "Fuzzy Puppy Buddies" teaching Dr. Eggman how to play the titular game. When he manages to best her, she declares this.
• Invoked and subverted in Star Wars: The Clone Wars, when the Son, embodiment of The Dark Side of the Force, kidnapped and forcefully turned Ahsoka to the Dark Side, and made her fight her teacher, Anakin. After she momentarily knocked Anakin's lightsaber out of his manus, she exclaimed that "Now the student volition impale the Chief!". Anakin, of grade, easily got back his lightsaber and blocked her attack, warned her that she was getting carried away, before easily convincing her.
• The principal point of conflict in the Steven Universe episode "Steven vs. Amethyst" is that Amethyst'south already big inferiority complex gets bigger when newest Crystal Precious stone Steven starts surpassing her in power on the battlefield.
• Played for laughs several times in Tom and Jerry.
  • Jerry experiences this in Lilliputian School Mouse when his nephew manages to find ways to dispense Tom into helping him accomplish the directives prepare by Jerry. Finally, when the Nephew outright befriends Tom, Jerry resigns himself to existence the fool while the nephew becomes the new instructor who promotes cats and mice being friends.
  • Similarly, Tom experiences this treatment in opposite in Professor Tom. After declining to get his cousin to learn how to capture mice similar Jerry properly, Jerry and Tom'due south protege eventually remove Tom of his status and Jerry becomes the new teacher of how to cats should interact with mice.
• In the 90s X-Men, Jean Greyness mockingly invokes this to Professor X while in full-on "Dark Phoenix" mode.

  Night Phoenix: You once told Jean Grey that the greatest joy a teacher has is to be surpassed by his ain pupil. Bask!

     Real Life

• Can be Truth in Tv: Due to poor pedagogy standards in some countries, it's common for the children to be better than the teachers. In that location was an incident in West Wales in 2005 where a child was told that he had got the answer to a question wrong, and he then managed to show using basic mathematics that the instructor was wrong and his answer was actually correct.
• Medieval Christian cathedrals borrowed heavily from the architecture of Rome and the Islamic empire, both civilizations far more advanced. Despite this, the cathedrals ended up making much of their inspiration look obsolete by comparing.
• Mariah Carey started her career in the 80'due south as a backup vocalizer for Brenda M. Starr, and Starr took on a mentor role to the young Carey. Just while Carey went on to become an international juggernaut, Starr herself faded to obscurity after her third anthology flopped. She did find afterward success afterward retooling herself every bit a salsa creative person and radio DJ, but Mariah Carey had surpassed her by far. Nevertheless, Carey hasn't forgotten where she came from, and her song "I Still Believe" is a cover of Starr's greatest hitting and a tribute to her sometime mentor.
• In the earth of professional darts, Phil Taylor started out as a protege of five-times Earth Champion Eric Bristow. By the fourth dimension Taylor retired in 2018, he'd won the Globe Title a record 16 times, having won a full of 214 professional tournaments and been World Number 1 for a full of thirteen years — far surpassing all of Bristow's achievements.

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